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@lkruel: We have a couple of really good discord servers that work great
@gamato: I would also agree that discord is a great solution, plus provides additional services (voice, video)
@laurent_d: Prefacing this with I really like discord as a service it’s a nice evolution of Skype by the way of slack.
Large servers I feel are less than ideal only being able to mute a channel but always being in it especially with a system similar to here with a lot of channels is annoying/overwhelming at times.
I don’t know how much it’d occur with this group but, from my experience with one with currently over 7000 users, moderation tools are severly lacking especially on larger servers. The ability to edit and remove messages without a trace of it’s not within the last 10 messages is one of my biggest frustration.
… that went on longer than I thought it would
@ozzmeister00: Totally valid concerns! That’s a really good point about moderation
@theodox: We have 950 users, more or less
though rarely more than 100 on at once
I think the ideal thing would be to try spinning up some test servers so we can get feedback on the different ones.
the Zulip one might be free for us, I’m going to email them and see
@bob.w said that the Python team is using it, I think
PS would-be volunteers should probably respond to the website post, it would be too ironic if this discussion scrolled off the end of the slack :0
@chrislesage: If you star a post, it remains in your personal starred history. In case anyone says anything important you want to save/reference.
@theodox: Ooh, that moderation thing is kinda serious. We’ve had one or two time where we had to scrub something problematic and I’d hate to have that get messed up because people were not online when something bad went down
I’m not sure if everybody else can see this page: https://tech-artists.slack.com/admin/stats
but some interesting takeaways:
- We scroll out completely in under 30 days now (13,000 messages in the last month, we get 10,000)
- 20% (!) of traffic is DMs
- we’re using 4.3 gigs of storage, I guess for file uploads?
- DAU is between 160 and 190, less than I expected.
- 934 members total
@chrislesage: Nope, only admins can see that page.
DAU = daily average users?
@chrislesage: I personally don’t think messages disappearing after 30 days is a very compelling reason to transition, in itself. If you love the data, let it go. I’m in another big Slack where things are usually gone in a few days. It’s still a very successful, active place.
I’d follow to Discord, but very little chance I’d install some weird 3rd chat app on top of the pile.
@bob.w: Personally I hate that we’re losing good info, and good solutions to the maw of slack.
/discourse helps a ton, but we solve stuff in random offhand conversations here that folks don’t think about saving.
@teessider: I personally star a LOT of posts
@bob.w: So, I never knew that staring a post kept it safer, but that feels like a dirty hack more than a solution
@chrislesage: I’m not saying that’s a solution. Steve was worried volunteer responses would get lost.
Starring is pretty hacky, since some people tend to chat using multiple short lines. Also, it doesn’t capture the context, replies, etc. And if you star it all, it is reversed in the history, and difficult to read anyway. But I’ve saved a few cool tips and tool recommendations here and there.
@theodox: slackarchive.io seems to be gone for good – the address now points at a code repo on github
Introducing Keybase Teams
@theodox: @jeff_hanna will love it, it’s based on blockchains! but it does have a 1000 member limit and we are at 948 right now. I’ll copy it over to the website thread for people to investigate
@gamato: well keybase is opensource, so it could be something adjustible (would have to look into it)
@expansivemango: discord seems to be pretty popular… the allegorithmic server has 825 people and i was able to scroll back two months of history before getting bored.
reddit: r/discordapp - Why is everyone moving from Slack to Discord?
TLDR - money.
@chrislesage: 948 people won’t transition along with you. All the dormant accounts will be gone at least. As well as anyone not interested in a new platform.